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Much time has passed since Drake and Pusha T were exchanging lyrical blows, but Pharrell Williams is just now opening up about the debacle.

The super-producer and industry icon stopped by the Drink Champs Podcast where he was asked about the beef. “I hate to see what [Pusha] and Drake are going through, or what they went through,” Pharrell shared on the podcast. “I hated all of it. Every bit of it. It wasn’t good.”

We’re coming up on 3 years removed from the beef. It exposed some secrets about Pusha and Drake, creating an unsettling mood for many music fans. Pusha T’s Story of Adidon introduced the world to Drake’s son, something that he wasn’t ready for. Most people were split on the idea that Pusha may have crossed the line with that diss track. Even Pharrell shared that he would have intervened if he had known what he was up to.

“He [Pusha] knows I would’ve stood in front of him as much as I could, but he’s a different kind of person, he’s a Taurus,” he explained. “When you feel like a line is crossed and you take off the gloves, that’s where your brain is at.”

It’s one of those beefs that has seemed to last longer than expected. Even with Drake’s issues with Meek Mill, the two have reconciled and have already hopped in the studio together.

Pharrell shares that the disagreement still bothers him. “It still breaks my heart to this day, because I would’ve loved to have heard those guys on a song together or heard a joint project together. I would’ve loved to twist that,” Pharrell shared. “By the way, Pusha says Drake’s got bars. When Drake makes something that’s amazing, we talk about it all the time.”

Hear more from the episode below. Listen from the 1:10:54 mark.